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The CPS Card: Whose Kids Are They Anyhow? – Episode 55

#55 – The CPS Card: Whose Kids Are They Anyhow? ** December 17, 2014
Guest // Robert J. Krakow, Esq ** Host // Louise Kuo Habakus

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sad-child2So you think they’re your kids? Sure, you gave birth to them. You raise them, teach them your values, ferry them far and wide, and shower them with love and stuff.

Did you know your children can be taken away from you in a heartbeat?

It doesn’t take much and you might have no warning, before there’s a knock at the door from Child Protective Services (CPS).

Let’s back up for a moment. It’s understandable that our reflexive response is to support structured resources that protect children from abuse or neglect. We’ve read terrible stories of little ones tortured beyond imagination. We whisper a quiet prayer that, please, the next time, a curious neighbor or concerned teacher might find the courage to intervene. We’d like to imagine CPS caseworkers as a caped avengers of sorts, swooping in to save the day.

But what happens when we’re on the other side of the equation? Parents fall down the rabbit hole and find themselves in a true nightmare, waging an epic battle for their children. Join me and attorney Bob Krakow for an eye-opening and sobering discussion about the things that can and do happen to parents and what you need to know to protect your family:

  • Is it true that allegations can be unsubstantiated and anonymous?
  • What if the hospital says your child urgently requires a certain medical intervention and you disagree?
  • What if you and your child’s doctor don’t see eye to eye about supplements, alternative treatments, or vaccination?
  • Who are Mandated Reporters?
  • What are the laws and limits?
  • What rights do parents have?
  • What are the top things that parents must know to protect their families?


bob-headshot-cropRobert J. Krakow, Esq is an attorney in private practice in New York City focusing on the trial of civil and criminal cases, and specializes in the representation of persons injured by exposure to environmental toxins and vaccines. Bob started his legal career with NYPIRG. He was a prosecutor with the New York County District Attorney’s office and served as Bureau Chief of the special narcotics prosecution division. Bob is committed to working for individuals with disabilities. He is on the board of Lifespire, Inc. and was Board Chair for 7 years. He founded and/or serves/served on the boards of prominent autism and vaccine safety advocacy organizations including EBCALA, Center for Personal Rights, A-CHAMP, National Autism Association, and SafeMinds. He lives in NYC with his wife and their two children.

Louise circle 8-7-14Louise Kuo Habakus is Executive Director of Fearless Parent, lead host and producer of Fearless Parent Radio, and mom of two. She is a published author, runs the non-profit Center for Personal Rights, lectures widely, and has appeared in numerous media outlets, including ABC World News Tonight, Fox & Friends, and The New York Times. Louise was a Bain consultant and a C-level executive in the financial services industry. She holds two degrees from Stanford University. She is an advisory board member of GreenMedInfo and The Documenting Hope Project.



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  • Wayne Bachmann via Facebook

    Get married with a Certificate of Marriage instead of the government contract known as a Marriage License, and the government will not have the right to be the DOMINANT 3RD PARTY in your marriage! It is because of the “Marriage License contract, with the government claiming ownership of any kids produced, that enables them to take your kids. It is all fraud, through lack of full disclosure. it is all about contracts…WITHOUT FULL DISCLOSURE…. WHICH IS FRAUD…… and through lack of knowledge, you permit them to do it to you.

    Get married with the Certificate of Marriage, and get the Marriage license annulled for lack of full disclosure, and let them know you will file criminal complaints against all parties concerned, if they do not annul the Marriage License. It will get their undivided attention. There are 7 components to a lawful contract, and a Marriage License does not contain all of them. Fraud by deception.

    All licenses are about commerce, and that includes a Marriage License. Get the Common Law Certificate of Marriage, and refuse all Birth Certificates, which are just a warehouse receipt. Get a Certificate of Live Birth, which is not a warehouse receipt or government document, unless the name is spelled with all upper case letters, and had the Trust Account number added to it.

    • Alison Fujito via Facebook

      Wayne, if a marriage license does not have full disclosure, making it fraud, why is it necessary to annul it? Isn’t a fraudulent contract non-binding?

      • Wayne Bachmann via Facebook

        Alison, you are absolutely correct. I would personally prefer they know about it so they just don’t continue to violate you even further. Put them in the hot seat! Let them know that you know of the fraud, so they will want to disconnect, and not further violate your rights. I see this as an excellent free divorce process when one of the spouses isn’t living up to their load and responsibilities.

        • Alison Fujito via Facebook

          Hmm…sometimes letting them know that you know of the fraud doesn’t make them want to disconnect, it makes them want to destroy you. See Wakefield.

          • Wayne Bachmann via Facebook

            Bullies are bullies because they are allowed to be. Yes, you may be walking a two edged sword, but public exposure is how I have always dealt with that factor. Ever notice how people who are up to no good want to cover their faces????? Hmmmmmmm?? Who are these dirty lowlifes that hide behind ski masks??? I expose the bullies that get in my face and violate my rights, I once had a dark blue Corvette that I was screwed on. I used very public tactics in Southern Oregon, and received a “Warning, you are playing with the BIG BOYS. You may get hurt”. I called local police, State police, Sheriff’s Office, Attorney General’s Office, and had all my bases covered if anything went wrong, they would know where to start looking. Suddenly, all intimidation tactics stopped. That is how I operate. Nowadays, I know about Commercial Law, and that it is international, That I can notify their bonding companies and have their bonds jerked. When they post it on their APB (All Points Bulletin) it notifies all bonding companies nationwide who is in the hot seat for committing Fraud and other crimes…… OUCH!, no bond ,…no job!

    • Wayne Bachmann via Facebook

      Just understanding contract law will open your eyes wide open to what is going on. Once you understand the 7 necessary ingredients to a contract, to make it lawful, the light bulbs will come on, and the fraud will be easily seen.

      We were not taught this info when we went to school, and that is why we weren’t aware of the fraud until now.

      • Liberty

        Wayne, can you explain about the certificate of live birth? Does that give the child the same privileges as “Birth cert.” but without the elements of modern slavery?

        • Wayne Bachmann

          I personally couldn’t care less about government granted privileges, and here is why. Anyone who grants a privilege can also take it away for any reason, or for no reason at all. Look at it like it was explained to me. If you want to cross someone’s property to save you a lot of time, they can grant, or deny you that right. They can also later, deny that privilege, if they so desire, with, or without reason…

          God gave us rights, not privileges. Since God gave us rights, fellow citizens on planet earth do not have the right to take away something that their own creator granted to them as well. They were not given rights to violate us of our rights, presuming they don’t violate the rights of anyone else.

          OK, there is your foundation…

          God gave your rights to you at birth, with parents who are supposed to be teaching how to conduct yourself, as you grow.

          A Certificate of Live Birth is just that… merely a certificate that you were birthed, and that you lived at least long enough for the cert. to be drafted, and has no ties to your God given rights, merely a statement that you were live birthed at a certain date and time..and who the doctor may have been, etc.. I have the history of it, researched by W. Cleon Skousen, but it will suffice to say that it goes back to the time of Moses, if I recall correctly, and is a document of Common Law.

          A Birth Certificate is a totally different matter. Here is a quick history, to help you understand the fraud. It is a government contract, which contains fraud…

          The Birth Certificate never existed until after the Civil War. It was illegal for blacks and whites to intermarry prior to the war. After the war, and the slaves were presumably freed, and it was made legal for blacks and whites to intermarry, and the Birth Certificate was created to keep track of the inter-racial kids that were created from the inter-racial marriages.

          There is your foundation for both of those documents. Now, here is the story behind the story. One will need an understanding of Maritime Law, to understand the tons of fraud that was done during and after the Civil War.

          In Maritime Law (having to do with ships at sea), when a ship is built, it is launched through a “Birthing Canal”. If it endures a water test, there is a Birthing or Birth Certificate created, and bonds and trust accounts start coming into effect. All licenses and registrations are about commerce, even Marriage licenses, as you will soon discover. So are bonds and trust accounts, along with a Birth Certificate for a human baby.

          When a child is born, it normally comes through a Birthing Canal, and the mother is not listed as a mother, but just a piece of machinery launching a new born “corporation”…. Look at the name on the Birth Certificate… notice that it is in all upper case letters. That is not your child, but is a Trust Account Name, a legal Fiction, or “Strawman” account for your baby, and there will also be a Trust Account number on the lower left corner. This is not a number assigned to the child, but is a Trust Account number assigned to the all upper case name, which is a corporate trust account name, in the legalese name of your child. Here is an example: Jonn Doe is the Natural Born Man or Woman. Notice the use of upper/lower case letters… JOHN DOE is not a living, natural born man or woman, but is a corporate PERSON. Look also at your Driver’s License and Social Security card. See how the BAR registrants have perverted the use of the English language? All documents from the corporation pretending to be our government will almost always be all upper case, unless they may be trying to slip some other form of fraud in front of your noses. The BAR association perverted the English language to include a corporation as a person, so corporations can have the same rights as a “Natural Born Person”. That is one of the ways corporations are getting away with violating the rights of those of us who are Natural Born. This process is called Legalese.

          For all who are LDS, and anyone else who has an ear to hear: BAR is a secret code, and has to do with “secret combinations”. I was never able to find what BAR stands for, and only found out because I bought a set of discs one time for $450, and it just happened to be on one of those discs. Now that I know what BAR stands for, there is lots of info available to me to find out about the perversions of the Law, and what has been happening.

          BAR: British Accreditation Registry…and is a secret society based in London. The American BAR Association is controlled through the Middle Temple. The Canadian BAR Association is controlled by the Outer Temple. There are several others…

          The Tona Amendment, or “original” 13th Amendment was drafted and ratified (the 2nd time) on March 12, 1819. BAR registrants keep wanting to deny and hide, but we now have proof of it, and it was unlawfully omitted when the Corporation created their own Constitution in 1871, which is not legitimate to the Republic, but only a corporate document,that has been passed off and hidden to unsuspecting individuals, as our legitimate Constitution. This corporate document is what permits BAR registrants ( all agents for the British Crown) to pervert our English language, to manipulate us into paying them large sums of money, and even being willing to sign fraudulent documents, where we willingly give up our rights and go to jails and prisons, so the criminals in government legal systems can get us naive citizens to pay for unjustified jail and prison sentences for those who have committed no crimes, whatsoever. I am one who was violated several times, and that is why I have learned what is going on, and now exposing it, so it hopefully won’t happen to you who are awake enough to comprehend. DO NOT UNDERSTAND anything the courts unjustly do to you. It means to submit to them… When the judge asks how you intend to plead… Refuse to “plead” anything, as that is also a submission to the corporation that is violating your rights. This also is an act of fraud, as they have not exposed the legalese of “understand” to you. They are continuously act without full disclosure to the general public, just like the wolf that is guarding the hen house.

          It is because of these fraudulent contracts with the corporation that enables them to take kids away from parents, even when no crime has been done.

          If I were in the the position of being married with one of their government contracts. I would get or make a Certificate of Marriage, get married with it, register it with the county records office, and file for annulment, and if they refuse to nullify, get each of their names, copies of their Oaths of Office, file criminal Reports on them, file liens against them for their crimes, turning all copies of everything over to the bonding companies who will properly jerk their bonds, if they don’t report to their bonding companies within 30 days. Instruct the bonding companies to post everything on their APB (All Points Bulletin) nationwide, so no other bonding companies will want to touch them. It will also cost each of them about $10,000 for each individual, for a personal retainer to defend themselves.
          They will not see fit to charge you for a divorce, since the Marriage License was done without full disclosure, and is fraudulent.

    • Momma85

      Wayne, you state ” Get a Certificate of Live Birth, which is not a warehouse receipt or government document, unless the name is spelled with all upper case letters, and had the Trust Account number added to it.” My two children unfortunately have the “birth certificate “. Can this be reversed or switched? I’m pregnant so if I get the Live Birth certificate – cps would have no rights to my child? What’s the benefits to the live birth certificate?

      • Wayne Bachmann

        Yes, I think so. If you document the fraud, showing that you know the fraud, and that the 7 steps of a lawful contract were not adhered to, it would greatly be to their advantage to not have you filing Criminal Complaints on the guilty parties!

        Caution… do not threaten anyone, or you may be held liable. Normally keeping quiet, go home and think about it, and draft a letter, is how I would respond, so all correspondence is done Lawfully and documented. Demand that all correspondence be done by lawful Affidavit, signed and sworn to in the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, with lawful proof of their claims if they decide to rebut your assertions.

        I would be very careful and have a demon of a husband with you at all times. I have been informed by an actual witness of this happening where they tried to force the Birth Cert on her, and also other reports of them slipping Trust account or Social Security account numbers on Certificates of Live Birth.

    • Liz

      Hi Wayne, I’ve never been to this website before but you seem to have lots of information that I’d like to learn more about. Do you have a website or another way that someone could contact you to learn more about what you have been writing in the comments section?

  • Krystale Willet via Facebook

    This scares me daily. Especially since it almost happened with my kids a year ago.

  • Tonya Snyder Himes via Facebook

    That’s scary! Yes we should know our rights regarding this. I need to learn. I never thought I would have to worry about it because I’m a good mom. But that alone doesn’t seem to matter anymore. So I want to learn about it in the scary chance that would ever happen.

    I’m glad that one of my best friends is a CPS worker for our area. Her and I have talked before about it. She said all the CPS workers in are area are genuine good ones. But yes there are the ones in the country that take kids for gov money and also take kids for refusing medical treatment etc. If that ever happened to me I’d find out who due to connections. But yes it’s scary that happens to some ppl.

    • Wayne Bachmann

      I personally know of people this is happening to people I personally know. One of which is a Deputy in the Cache County Sheriff’s Office, in Logan, Utah. They seem to know no bounds to their corruption. I would laugh, but he is a decent Deputy, and has always conducted himself extremely professionally. I have been a witness of cases he has been involved in, and I am totally impressed with this Deputy and his conduct, or I would laugh at him. He and a friend are both having head aches with the corruption of CDC

      They get paid according to the cases they solve, so they generate cases for money and promotions… They absolutely need to have Criminal Reports filed on them, and reported to their bonding companies

  • Heather Rickert Walker via Facebook

    What happens to the person that falsely reports? Are state laws in place as punishment for individuals creating bogus report? What happens if one person continuously false reports?

    Look forward to this interview! This is a must listen for Everyone!!

  • April Suzanne Whinery via Facebook

    It is happening to me, and I can’t understand why as my husband and I had our son seen 11 times in three months. Our son had rib fractures at a month old. He had three separate sets of x-rays because he was vomiting up everything he was eating, and kept getting really sick. He was put on oxygen at one point because his oxygen level kept dipping real low. We asked about our son’s ribs at his 2 month check up(after the three x-rays were performed) because they were protruding on his left side a little in one spot. You know what that doctor told us? That our son was fine knowing damn well he wasn’t. He told us he was just growing. We are the ones being punished because of him. It is going on two years ago now that our babies were stolen from us.

    • Wayne Bachmann

      I am answering this one first, due to its nature of priority. Two friends of mine are currently fighting this battle, one of which still has her kids because of knowing this info, and she is also the source for which I gained part of my info.

      1st of all, understand this… They are government lowlife that probably wouldn’t have a job or be employable, if not for sucking off your tax dollars. This is just a personal opinion— at this point… They get paid according to the cases they solve… enter corruption… Some will lie and create a case to solve, where there are no lawful grounds, collect bonuses and promotions for cases solved, or….. invented unlawfully.

      Here is the remedy… Get their names, badge numbers, all credential copies. Make sure you have copies of all documents. File Criminal Complaints against all guilty parties as individuals, natural born. DOCUMENT all events– EVERYTHING– in the form of Affidavit in Truth, of the Events. Here is a new trick that I just learned from a special friend – get a roll of butcher paper or drafting paper and make a scroll of the events, written in the form of block squares. I can show you this in a few seconds. I did not really see the value of this step, UNTIL it was nearly done..When you go into court, you demand the use of one full table for yourself, roll the scroll out across the table, and you are ready to make the lawyers look like beginners! Because you know your case better than anyone else, you are better prepared to speak for yourself than any attorney or lawyer ever could. You will know right where to go on the scroll, and will be immediately ready to explain anything anyone wants to know.. I learned this process from Hartford Van Dyke, who is the nephew of the man who discovered the Japanese were going to attack Pearl Harbor, 3 days before it happened. Google him up to learn the truth about FDR, SECRETS IN UNCLE SAM’S CLOSET, AND SILENT WEAPONS FOR QUIET WARS. Download his process for filing liens. You will need it. I have his phone number, but I would rather he make a personal appearance to share. You will be using his process for filing Criminal Complaints. Ezra Taft Benson paid him to come to Utah and work with W. Cleon Skousen, who David O. McKay asked to start teaching classes on the Constitution, and I am one of his students from that process. I share all of this with everyone, so you know the source of this info. It was not me.

      After you have your paperwork done, and there is a little more to it like ss from Notary Publics, file and serve papers on all defendants, then – and this is very important- make a list of when you serve papers on each defendant. Be very careful and critical to note the date and exact time -to the minute- of when you served papers on each individual, then go BEHIND THE BACKS of each of the defendants to serve copies of everything to at least 5 major bonding companies, like AETNA and HARTFORD, with instructions that they may want to post it on their APB (All Points Bulletin) which will notify all 300+ bonding companies across the nation of the criminal involvement the defendants are presumably involved in. That will set a 30 day timeclock to start ticking. This is why it is so critical to have serving time documented… All defendants will then have 30 days from the exact time of being served notice….. to report to each of their bonding companies…OR AUTOMATICALLY LOOSE THEIR BONDS… AND BE OUT OF A JOB!! Once this notice gets sent out on the APB, other bonding companies will know about the presumed crimes, and won’t be willing to bond those individuals. Before serving the Criminal Complaints, you file liens and have them attached to the Complaints. Having served the Complaints on them, they are now in a position of having to hire an attorney at their own expense (usually about $10,000 per individual / retainer). This also starts another clock ticking…. They have 90 days to have you paid, plus any rebuttal time.

      Why does this happen to people with no criminal conduct of their own? One reason is: CHILD TRAFFICKING.
      Another reason is that any state that has to take care of dependents gets paid a kickback fee from the Federal Government. This is a huge moneymaker for each participating state budget. For more info on this subject, google Will and Pamela Gaston, who had their daughter taken for no reason, and still has not seen her, to this date, as of about 4 months ago. They won their case, and Pamela was assassinated, along with all their animals, after they won their case, done by AG spray plane. Pamela lived long enough to tell will what happened after he got home. It was intended for Will also. He just happened to be gone at the time. I know him, and other key players in this case, as well.

      DO NOT TRY SUING THE GOVERNMENT. All suits have to be in like kind. Corporations can sue corporations, natural born individuals can sue natural born individuals, but you cannot cross sue, (normally speaking — government does it all the time and get away with it because you don’t know any better, but don’t try it, because they do know better and will beat you at their game). You sue the individuals who violated your rights, WHO JUST HAPPEN TO WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT! I am saying sue, but that is not accurate, and I am just saying sue for simplicity sake. I also need to make this clear.. I do not give any legal advice. I only share what I would do in any given situation.

      I would do what I have just described, and demand justice. DO NOT ASK— THAT SHOWS SUBMISSION TO THE CORPORATION, ALWAYS DEMAND… you are their employer… you demand… in writing… and have it notarized, so you always have proof of your conduct and action…

      The going rate for these crimes are $10,000 per crime, per individual committing the crimes, per Jewish time, which is 3 days, some other situations call for every day, with interest rate compounding monthly

      We really should have a class on this. It would be far more valuable, and in depth.

  • Ashley

    If you need a passport will all those things work? Or what if my husband is a vet getting $$ for disability? Will all these be acceptable? They need marriage and birth certs.

  • Mandy Hardy Hillman

    Worst fear. And, sadly, I’ve seen many parents make decisions they didn’t want to as a direct result of that fear.

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  • Wayne Bachmann

    There is a special process for passports, and I have not done it yet, but need to. Contact Kelby Smith at 530-694-4343. And another source of good info is hisadvocates.org

  • Val

    Great show, Louise. I think its helpful to understand one’s rights before you need to know them. Not an easy topic to navigate through with all the gray areas. Thanks for the extra info.

  • Anthony DiSante

    Thanks for this episode. It’s such an important issue and was great to hear Robert’s expertise. Frustrating that you couldn’t really pin him down (though I understand why) on the question of the best response when CPS comes knocking — let them in, or not? I guess there’s really no good answer, because they have the power to take your children either way.

    And that’s really the point: CPS has far too much power. This is governmental abuse of power, pure and simple. Our justice system is based upon the concept of “innocent until proven guilty” and on a right to trial by a jury of your peers. But CPS is a perversion of all that: you’re guilty until you can prove your innocence, and in the meantime they can literally kidnap your children, all with no due process, no conviction, no trial — just one judge acting as a dictator.

    I know the Parental Rights group (www.parentalrights.org) is working on an amendment, which is great. But in the meantime, I think parents need to join together and rise up and demand limits on the power granted to CPS and the family courts. Specifically, if the parent has not been convicted of hurting the child, then CPS/judges should NOT have the right to take the child away.

    It’s an imperfect world, and sadly, it’s not possible to save every single child, no matter what you do. So a fair system must err on the side of freedom, not on the side of taking kids away from good parents. So many kids get horribly abused in the foster system already; condemning more kids to that fate is not “protecting the children”.

  • sarah

    Where is the Mito Action link? It’s not in the show notes.

  • Danielle

    We are being harassed by CPS (called Child Welfare Services in my county) for allowing our kids, 6 and 10 years, to walk home from the park unsupervised. Yesterday a CWS worker showed up at my house with a police officer insisting that he had a right to come inside. He did not have a warrant but insisted that he did not need one. He also went to the school to interview my children without my knowledge or permission.

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