Episode #53 ** December 3, 2014
Guest // Suzanne Humphries, MD ** Host // Kelly Brogan, MD
The CDC website has information on Vaccines for Pregnant Women and Guidelines for Vaccinating Pregnant Women. Here, pregnant women and clinicians are told:
- Vaccines can keep mama and “her growing family” healthy.
- Specific vaccines that are needed are based on age, lifestyle, medical conditions, type and locations of travel, and previous vaccination.
- Get up to-date with vaccines before getting pregnant
- Some vaccines cannot be given during pregnancy (i.e., rubella).
- Some vaccines should be given during pregnancy: pertussis, hepatitis B, flu.
- It is safe for a woman to receive vaccines right after giving birth, even while she is breastfeeding.
Together, these pages raise more questions than they answer. Kelly Brogan raises a collective, manicured eyebrow on behalf of many dubious women and digs into the research with these probing questions:
- Where’s the science showing safety and efficacy for both mom and fetus?
- If vaccination should vary based on age and lifestyle, then where’s this discussion and the underlying evidence base?
- What do we know about maternal-fetal immunology?
- Which vaccines are Category C pharmaceutical drugs and what does this mean?
- Can we speak very specifically about the reasons women cannot get some vaccines while pregnant? Is it just the live virus vaccines?
- What are the adverse events that have been documented following vaccination while pregnant?
- What’s the down low on flu shots? Efficacy, statistics, mist vs injections, and lessons from the 1917 epidemic and recent swine flu campaigns? How does the CDC justify its recent decision to recommend live virus flu shots to 2 year olds when so many pregnant women have toddlers at home? (Live attenuated rubella virus is excreted from nose and throat 7 to 28 days after vaccination. – MMR II package insert, p. 5)
- Why is the mercury-based preservative thimerosal still in the flu shot, recommended to virtually everyone, including babies and pregnant women?
- What’s cocooning and do you buy it?
- What adverse events have been reported following vaccination of pregnant women?
- Is there a better way for women to boost the immune system during pregnancy?
This discussion is for girls and women of reproductive age, the people who love them, and parents and guardians of young children.
Suzanne Humphries, MD is a conventionally-trained physician who participated in mainstream medicine from 1989-2011. During those years, she saw how often that approach fails patients and creates new diseases. Suzanne is board-certified in nephrology and was formerly certified in internal medicine. She graduated from Temple University Medical School. Read more about Suzanne on her website DrSuzanne.net.
Kelly Brogan, MD is Medical Director of Fearless Parent™ and mom of two. She is board certified in Psychiatry, Psychosomatic Medicine, and Integrative and Holistic Medicine. Holistic living, environmental medicine, and nutrition are the bedrock of her functional medicine practice. She serves as medical advisor to GreenMedInfo, Pathways to Family Wellness, and Fisher Wallace. Kelly holds degrees from MIT and Cornell Medical School.
Thank you so much for this discussion!
You are both heroes for me.
I’m a nurse practitioner in conventional medicine (CM) and I feel terrible seeing the harm to patients every day from CM. I am a lone black sheep and will not stay in CM for much longer as it is impossible to do the right thing for patients within the CM setting.
Thank you again!
Dawn Lovisa, FNP
Agreed, Dawn. I’m a CNM in hospital practice. Making plans for homebirth practice now. My heart breaks for what I must stand by and watch done to mothers and babies many days.
Kimberly,
I feel for you. It gives me some sense of not being so alone to know you are out there.
I’m at work in a CM setting today and I am so uncomfortable. It is so hard to see CM cause such harm to people who so trust CM.
I’m trying to find my voice. We need to speak out. People need to know what is happening.
I will be giving my first talk at the local food Co-op tomorrow night and looking forward to it.
Hang in there Kimberly. You will create your own practice. The world needs you!
Dawn
Kimberly where are you practicing? I now help women get pregnant when MD’s can’t~its a great part of my work. I started my own wellness center because of the issues in medicine. I am a CNM and NP and the changes that I’ve seen in 38yrs is incredulous. These speakers speak for us. You can see more about me at: http://www.HealthyBalancedWomen.com
Dawn I hear you. I started my own wellness center because of the issues in medicine. I am a CNM and NP and the changes that I’ve seen in 38yrs is incredulous. These speakers speak for us. Where are you located Dawn? you can see more about me at: http://www.HealthyBalancedWomen.com
Awesome as usual Docs H & B! I want you both to be everyone’s doc!
Love Kanduc’s work which fits with our cohort: immune suppression (& what isn’t in our modern toxic world?) allows microbes to get the upper hand, alters cell signaling, & causes inflammatory diseases. We focus on the epigenetic hormone, vitamin D, because microbes down-regulate its receptor & no amount of vitamin D pills will fix this dysregulation but will cause immune suppression. “Vitamins” can hurt. So glad you didn’t mention vitamin D deficiency on this program!
However, my family does take sodium ascorbate & liposomal C. In a toxic world it’s important to help move pesticides out of the body. See Andrea Gore at UT Austin on endocrine disrupters.
Steve Cole, UCLA, has a most helpful graph illustrating the inflammation program the body runs when cells are chronically stressed from toxins, infection, injury. His field is PNI (psyche, neuro, immune systems are all interconnected). The stressed cell will make less lymphoid cells & more myeloid (monocyte) immune cells which are very aggressive & inflame the tissues/organs. Min 22:06
I feel this info provides informed consent on adverse reactions to vaccines as the toxic metals, foreign DNA, cross-reacting epitopes are lifelong cell stressors.
Microbiome and vaccine efficacy:
Dr. Jeff Gordon is telling pediatricians the importance of the microbiome but no mention of the “v” word! Notice his poster: using adenovirus to infect myeloid cells…these are the aggressive monocytes up-regulated in the inflammation program that vaccines cause in the first place! It’s mad world! Also of interest, his lab is funded by Bill Gates Foundation because they find malnourished African children have altered microbiome and less vaccine efficacy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ4eOfJg8i4